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Reply to comment on 'On the relationship between Atlantic meridional overturning circulation slowdown and global surface warming'

  • In their comment on our paper (Caesar et al 2020 Environ. Res. Lett. 15 024003), Chen and Tung (hereafter C&T) argue that our analysis, showing that over the last decades Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) strength and global mean surface temperature (GMST) were positively correlated, is incorrect. Their claim is mainly based on two arguments, neither of which is justified: first, C&T claim that our analysis is based on 'established evidence' that was only true for preindustrial conditions-this is not the case. Using data from the modern period (1947-2012), we show that the established understanding (i.e. deep-water formation in the North Atlantic cools the deep ocean and warms the surface) is correct, but our analysis is not based on this fact. Secondly, C&T claim that our results are based on a statistical analysis of only one cycle of data which was furthermore incorrectly detrended. This, too, is not true. Our conclusion that a weaker AMOC delays the current surface warming rather than enhances it, is based onIn their comment on our paper (Caesar et al 2020 Environ. Res. Lett. 15 024003), Chen and Tung (hereafter C&T) argue that our analysis, showing that over the last decades Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (AMOC) strength and global mean surface temperature (GMST) were positively correlated, is incorrect. Their claim is mainly based on two arguments, neither of which is justified: first, C&T claim that our analysis is based on 'established evidence' that was only true for preindustrial conditions-this is not the case. Using data from the modern period (1947-2012), we show that the established understanding (i.e. deep-water formation in the North Atlantic cools the deep ocean and warms the surface) is correct, but our analysis is not based on this fact. Secondly, C&T claim that our results are based on a statistical analysis of only one cycle of data which was furthermore incorrectly detrended. This, too, is not true. Our conclusion that a weaker AMOC delays the current surface warming rather than enhances it, is based on several independent lines of evidence. The data we show to support this covers more than one cycle and the detrending (which was performed to avoid spurious correlations due to a common trend) does not affect our conclusion: the correlation between AMOC strength and GMST is positive. We do not claim that this is strong evidence that the two time series are in phase, but rather that this means that the two time series are not anti-correlated.zeige mehrzeige weniger

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Verfasserangaben:Levke CaesarORCiDGND, Stefan RahmstorfORCiDGND, Georg FeulnerORCiDGND
DOI:https://doi.org/10.1088/1748-9326/abc776
ISSN:1748-9326
Titel des übergeordneten Werks (Englisch):Environmental research letters
Verlag:IOP Publ. Ltd.
Verlagsort:Bristol
Publikationstyp:Wissenschaftlicher Artikel
Sprache:Englisch
Datum der Erstveröffentlichung:26.02.2021
Erscheinungsjahr:2021
Datum der Freischaltung:19.01.2024
Freies Schlagwort / Tag:Atlantic meridional overturning circulation; global surface warming; ocean heat uptake
Band:16
Ausgabe:3
Aufsatznummer:038002
Seitenanzahl:5
Organisationseinheiten:Mathematisch-Naturwissenschaftliche Fakultät / Institut für Physik und Astronomie
DDC-Klassifikation:5 Naturwissenschaften und Mathematik / 53 Physik / 530 Physik
Peer Review:Referiert
Publikationsweg:Open Access / Gold Open-Access
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Lizenz (Deutsch):License LogoCC-BY - Namensnennung 4.0 International
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